This is from a discussion that took place on Facebook.
Shalom Yada,
I
have to thank you again for meeting my challenge, like I said before it
would have been much nicer if you had gone through my questions one by
one and answered them in that fashion, but I won’t split hairs over
that. I’m just happy to see that you actually tried. Which by the way
is more than Tom Martincic, Lew White, and many, many others have done.
Yada said,
Quote:
“The Yanah (Jonah) truth as proven from scripture:”
REPLY: I absolutely agree with you, that’s why we want to see Scriptures for why you believe what you do.
Yada quoted:
Quote:
Luke 23:52-54
23:52 This man went unto Pilate, and begged the body of Yahushua.
23:53
And he took it down, and wrapped it in linen, and laid it in a
sepulcher that was hewn in stone, wherein never man before was laid.
23:54 And that day was the preparation, and the Sabbath drew on.
Preparation
day in this context is the 14th day of the 1st month (Pesach day during
daylight time), with this “Sabbath” being the 1st day of the Feast of
Unleavened Bread. “
REPLY:
In this context it is the 14th day of the first month, but according
to the Scriptures when Yoseph took the body down and wrapped it in linen
it was after evening and it was not during the day portion, as we can
clearly read in the Scriptures:
Mar 15:42 And when EVENING HAD COME, because it was the Preparation Day, that is, the day before the Sabbath,
Mar
15:43 Yosĕph of Ramathayim, a prominent council member, who was himself
waiting for the reign of Elohim, came, boldly went in to Pilate and
asked for the body of יהושע.
Mar 15:44 But Pilate wondered whether He was already dead, so summoning the captain, he asked him if He was already dead.
Mar 15:45 And when he learned this from the captain, he gave the body to Yosĕph.
Mar
15:46 And he, having bought fine linen, took Him down, and wrapped Him
in the linen. And he laid Him in a tomb which had been hewn out of the
rock, and rolled a stone against the entrance of the tomb.
Mar 15:47 And Miryam from Magdala, and Miryam the mother of Yosĕph, saw where He was laid.
This
is just one of many verses that prove that the day does not begin in
the evening. Mark 15:42 specifically says, “when evening had come” it
also states that it is still “the Preparation Day” even further saying
it is “the day before the Sabbath”. So when you claim that it was the
daylight portion of the 14th you are incorrect because the Scripture
says “evening had come”. We also notice in Mark that he does not refer
to that Sabbath as a “high/mega” Sabbath. You are right that Sabbath
spoken of was the first day of the Feast of ULB, but technically the
first day of eating ULB starts on the 14th day of the first month in the
evening as the Torah confirms:
Exo 12:18 ‘In the first
month, on the fourteenth day of the month, in the evening, you shall eat
unleavened bread until the twenty-first day of the month in the
evening.
Deu 16:4 “And no leaven should be seen with you in all
your border for seven days, neither should any of the meat which you
slaughter in the evening on the first day stay all night until morning.
According
to Shemoth 12:18 you shall eat ULB on the 14th day of the month in the
evening, according to Debarim 16:4 none of the meat which you slaughter
in the evening on THE FIRST DAY stay all night until morning. Notice
that Deb. 16:4 calls the day which you slaughter the Passover lamb the
first day. What day is the lamb to be killed? The 14th. It is called
the “first day”, the chief day; most important day. This is the day
that Messiah was impaled, this is also the day of the set-apart
gathering, as we know because the children of Yisra’el were commanded to
stay inside all night until morning. We also know this because Yahusha
was slain on that day. That is why it is the first day, the chief day.
There is so much more to discuss about the first day and I would love
to but it will take away from this study. But so far what we have seen
is a misapplication of what the Scriptures actually say. It wasn’t
until evening came that Yoseph even went to Pilate to ask for the body.
You might claim that “evening” only means late in the day, well
according to the accounts we see the number of the hours; 3, 6, 9 being
used but all of a sudden you might claim “oh that only means late in the
day”, if this is so tell me why did they not use 10, 11, or 12th? How
about we take the Scripture for what it says? Evening had come; which
is past tense. Oh by the way, if you claim the day begins in the
evening then we can see that the Sabbath would have begun; which is an
impossibility because the Scriptures say:
Mar 15:47 And Miryam from Magdala, and Miryam the mother of Yosĕph, saw where He was laid.
Luk 23:54 And it was Preparation day, and the Sabbath was approaching.
Luk 23:55 And the women who had come with Him from Galil followed after, and saw the tomb and how His body was laid.
Luk 23:56 And having returned, they prepared spices and perfumes. And they rested on the Sabbath according to the command.
Luke
23:54-56 took place after evening had come, because that is when Yoseph
went to Pilate and according to these verses it was still the
Preparation Day. “And having returned, they prepared spices and
perfumes. And they rested on the Sabbath according to the command.” And
they rested according to the command. And they rested according to the
command. IF they rested according to the command then there needs to
be a command in the Torah that gives instructions to rest. This is one
of the questions I have been asking – where in Torah are the
instructions to rest on the first or seventh day of Passover/ULB? You
said:
You said,
Quote:
Any day commanded in scripture by YaHuWaH as “no servile work” is referred to as a “Sabbath”.”
REPLY:
This statement right here is a statement that is unsubstantiated in
Torah. That is why you did not bring any Scripture from Torah that
specifically says that the first or seventh day of Passover/ULB are
Sabbaths. Here’s what the Scripture actually says:
Exo
12:15 ‘Seven days you shall eat unleavened bread. Indeed on the first
day you cause leaven to cease from your houses. For whoever eats
leavened bread from the first day until the seventh day, that being
shall be cut off from Yisra’ĕl.
Exo 12:16 ‘And on the first day is a
set-apart gathering, and on the seventh day you have a set-apart
gathering. No work at all is done on them, only that which is eaten by
every being, that alone is prepared by you.
Lev 23:5 ‘In the first month, on the fourteenth day of the month, between the evenings, is the Passover to יהוה.
Lev
23:6 ‘And on the fifteenth day of this month is the Festival of
Unleavened Bread to יהוה – seven days you eat unleavened bread.
Lev 23:7 ‘On the first day you have a set-apart gathering, you do no servile work.
Num 28:16 ‘And in the first month, on the fourteenth day, is the Passover of יהוה,
Num 28:17 and on the fifteenth day of this month is a festival. For seven days unleavened bread is eaten.
Num 28:18 ‘On the first day is a set-apart gathering, you do no servile work.
Deu
16:8 “Six days you eat unleavened bread, and on the seventh day there
is a closing festival to יהוה your Elohim – you do no work.
These
are the commands concerning the first and seventh days of Passover/ULB,
I’m not sure if I have all the relevant verses, but as we can see as we
read the instructions that not once is the first or seventh day
referred to as a Sabbath.
You said,
Quote:
“Any day commanded in scripture by YaHuWaH as “no servile work” is referred to as a “Sabbath”.”
REPLY:
So to be accurate with your statement ‘any day commanded in scripture
by Yahuah as no servile’ YOU refer to as a Sabbath, because Yahuah did
not in His Torah. You are only assuming it is a Sabbath. Which amounts
to you adding to the word. Just because one does no servile work does
not mean they are resting/Sabbath – we would all be much better off if
we observed the instructions for each individual day rather than taking
from one instruction and adding it to another. There is nowhere in
scripture that ever commands us to take instructions from one day and
add them to another which is all too common these days. The first and
the eighth day of Tabernacles are Sabbaths, how do we know this?
Because Yahuah designated them to be Sabbaths.
Lev 23:39
‘On the fifteenth day of the seventh month, when you gather in the fruit
of the land, observe the festival of יהוה for seven days. On the first
day is a rest/7677, and on the eighth day a rest/7677.
Let
us please stick with what the word says instead of assuming it is
something when it is not called such. Besides that the first day of
Passover/ULB is not the 15th day of the month, that is another topic but
it can be absolutely proven in the Scripture. It is only considered on
the 15th by tradition. Continuing:
You said,
Quote:
“ Today we call them “high Sabbaths”, not being a 7th day weekly Sabbath (referred to by the 4th Commandment).”
REPLY:
You are right; you call them “high Sabbaths” but not understanding that
it is called a ‘high Sabbath’ because it is a “mega” Sabbath. That
takes place on the 15th day because it is a weekly Sabbath and it is a
mega one because the Feast of ULB begins on that day. It is a mega one
because the 15th day of the first month is the day the children of
Yisra’el were released from their captivity, but the chief day is on the
14th.
So you have not brought any instruction from the Torah
that specifically calls the first or seventh day of Passover/ULB a
Sabbath/7677/7676/rest. And we know the instructions tell us that the
first and eighth day of Tabernacles are indeed a rest/7677. So what is
your explanation? Did Yahuah forget to tell us in His instructions that
it is a rest? Or maybe you can blame this one on a copiest error or
maybe you just don’t want to accept what the instructions say. OR you
want to change the instructions to fit your understanding. Or hell, you
can just blame me; tell me I don’t know what I’m talking about. The
truth is you are going beyond what the instructions tell us. Because
you will not heed the instructions as written you have entered into
confusion.
You said,
Quote:
“Yahuwkanan (falsely called “John”) 19:31… 19:31
The Jews therefore, because it was the preparation, that the bodies
should not remain upon the stake on the Sabbath day, (for that Sabbath
day was a high day,) besought Pilate that their legs might be broken,
and that they might be taken away. ( http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Jhn&c=19&t=KJV#31 ) “High
Sabbath” clearly refers to a “no servile work” Feast Day (here the “1st
day of the Feast of Unleavened Bread, also the coming 15th day of the
1st month, which was NOT a weekly 7th day Sabbath). As YaHuWaH leads…”
REPLY:
See above. No servile work does not equal rest/Sabbath. When Yahuah
TELLS you it is a rest/Sabbath then it is. Otherwise, you are putting
words in Yahuah’s mouth that did not come out. Stick to the
instructions.
You continue: “
Quote:
REPLY:
According to the ISR: the “first day of the week”/ mia ton sabbaton
is a Semitic idiom. But that’s just what they’re trying to tell us and
personally I agree with them and I could say I also disagree with them
because it could also mean that it is the start of the first Sabbath
complete. But I will bear with you on this if you want to insist that
it is a 7th day Sabbath.
ISR: Mat 28:1 Now after the
Sabbath, toward dawn on the first day of the week, Miryam from Magdala
and the other Miryam came to see the tomb.
KJV w/Strongs: Mat
28:1 In the end(G3796) of the sabbath,G4521 as it began to dawnG2020
towardG1519 the firstG3391 day of the week,G4521 cameG2064 MaryG3137
MagdaleneG3094 andG2532 theG3588 otherG243 MaryG3137 to seeG2334
theG3588 sepulchre.G5028
Now you’re claiming that they are all referring to the weekly 7th day Sabbath. Just look at 28:1 –
“In
the end of the 7th day Sabbath as it began to dawn toward the first 7th
day Sabbath came Mary Magdalene” ? Look at that, back to back 7th day
Sabbaths? How can we have back to back 7th day Sabbaths? Now remember
you’re claiming that 4521 is a 7th day Sabbath, the end of the 4521
would also be a 7th day Sabbath according to your understanding. What
about it being the “first Sabbath”? They just ended a Sabbath and then
they’re going to have the first Sabbath? Wouldn’t the 15th have been
the first Sabbath and the 16th have been the second Sabbath?
Mar
16:9 And having risen early on the first day of the week, He appeared
first to Miryam from Magdala, from whom He had cast out seven demons.
According
to this verse Yahusha rose early on the “first Sabbath, the 7th day
Sabbath” (?) Do you claim that Yahusha is the first-fruits offering?
Not according to your belief. According to the Torah the first-fruits
offering is on the morrow after the Sabbath. So on one hand you say He
rose at the end of the Sabbath which is not in agreement with the
first-fruits offering and then He is rising early on the “first
Sabbath”, that word ‘early’ means ‘the growing of light’, not the
diminishing of light; all the accounts show that the Miryams went to the
tomb early, as in morning.
Luk 24:1 And on the first day of the week, at early dawn, they came to the tomb, bringing the spices which they had prepared,
Are
you sure this is a 7th day weekly Sabbath?? LOOK at what they are
doing – they are bringing the spices which they had prepared. Now
according to:
Luk 23:56 And having returned, they prepared spices and perfumes. And they rested on the Sabbath according to the command.
So,
after they saw how the body was laid they returned and prepared spices
and perfumes and then the rested on the Sabbath according to the command
but now all of a sudden when the 7th day Sabbath comes they go to the
tomb and bring the spices in which they had prepared? So you have them
resting on a day that is not considered a ‘rest’ or a ‘sabbath’ and then
you have them working on a 7th day Sabbath that is a commanded rest.
Joh
20:1 And on the first day of the week Miryam from Magdala came early
to the tomb, while it was still dark, and saw that the stone had been
removed from the tomb
Joh 20:19 When therefore it was evening on
that day, the first day of the week,and when the doors were shut where
the taught ones met, for fear of the Yehuḏim, יהושע came and stood in
the midst, and said to them, “Peace to you.”
I’ll
make a comment on Yah. 20:19 that’s kind of off topic – but if you
would notice it says “IT WAS EVENING ON THAT DAY, THE FIRST DAY OF THE
WEEK”. Which means according to the evening to evening reckoning, that
your so-called 7th day Sabbath should have been OVER WITH. Let’s get
the context of that evening:
Luk 24:29 But they urged Him
strongly, saying, “Stay with us, for it is toward evening, and the day
has declined.” And He went in to stay with them.
Luk 24:30 And it
came to be, when He sat at the table with them, having taken the bread,
He blessed, and having broken, He was giving it to them.
Luk 24:31 And their eyes were opened and they recognised Him. And He disappeared from their sight.
The
passage in Luke is discussing what took place on the third day on the
road to Ammaus, notice it says “for it is toward evening and the day has
declined” Yah. 20:19 picks up when they went back and found the other
emissaries and it specifically says it was evening on that day, the
first day of the week. Whether you want to call it a Sabbath or not,
the fact is according to evening to evening it would have been an
impossibility for it still to be “the first sabbaton”. Evening to
evening is a tradition that can be proven false in the Torah and in the
Brit.
Continuing you said,
Quote:
“The
Greek word “Sabbaton” (Strong’ #G4521) has been incorrectly translated
as “week”, giving much confusion into the meanings of the above verses,
which all refer to the same YAOM (“day”, the 17th day of the 1st month
to be exact).”
REPLY: Ummm,
your count is confused. What happened to the 16th? 16 comes after 15,
you claim that the 15th was the “high day Sabbath” and then you claim
that the first day of the week is a 7th day Sabbath; which by every
account came after the “high day Sabbath”. Let me reiterate:
KJV
w/Strongs: Mat 28:1 In the end(G3796) of the sabbath,G4521 as it
began to dawnG2020 towardG1519 the firstG3391 day of the week,G4521
cameG2064 MaryG3137 MagdaleneG3094 andG2532 theG3588 otherG243 MaryG3137
to seeG2334 theG3588 sepulchre.G5028
Now you’re claiming that they are all referring to the weekly 7th day Sabbath. Just look at 28:1 –
“In
the end of the 7th day Sabbath as it began to dawn toward the first 7th
day Sabbath came Mary Magdalene” ? Look at that, back to back 7th day
Sabbaths? How can we have back to back 7th day Sabbaths? Now remember
you’re claiming that 4521 is a 7th day Sabbath, the end of the 4521
would also be a 7th day Sabbath according to your understanding. What
about it being the “first Sabbath”? They just ended a Sabbath and then
they’re going to have the first Sabbath? Wouldn’t the 15th have been
the first Sabbath and the 16th have been the second Sabbath?
Excuse
me, but you have a disappearing 16th day. According to the written
word one Sabbath was ending and the first of sabbaton was beginning.
Now you just said, “above verses, which all refer to the same YAOM
(“day”, the 17th day of the 1st month to be exact).” I don’t know what
to say. I could start beating you over the head with adjectives, but
I’m not going to. The only thing I can say is I feel sorry for you.
You said,
Quote:
“When
translated correctly “Sabbaton” does not mean “week” here, it very much
does mean “weekly 7th day Sabbath” in the above references, with it’s
Hebrew counterpart being #H7676 See here for yourselves and it’s Hebrew root #H7676: ( http://www.blueletterbible.org/lang/lex ... 4521&t=KJV )”
REPLY:
I would agree with you that where they inserted ‘week’ should have
been ‘sabbaton’ but yet this is explainable way more so than your
theory.
1) As the ISR says: it could be a Semetic idiom that means “day one of the week”
2)
The reason it says first is because that is the first week of the
first Sabbath complete; which according to custom takes place on the
16th day of the first month, the day after the weekly Sabbath which took
place on the 15th, the 16th being the day of the wave omer in which
Yahusha fulfils for the first-fruits of the barley harvest. According
to your theory you have Yahusha being raised up at the end of a Sabbath
before another Sabbath which does not coincide with Yahusha being the
first-fruit offering at the correct time. I personally believe HE
fulfills the first-fruit offering on the morrow after the weekly Sabbath
which took place on the 16th day of the first month and that is exactly
what the Scriptures show. You on the other hand do not consider
Yahusha to have fulfilled the first-fruit offering according to Torah.
You said,
Quote:
“Yahuwshuwa
the messiyah died on the stake and was buried sometime before dusk and
sunset going into the evening of the 15th day of the 1st month, being
still on the 14th day of the 1st month.
REPLY:
What are you talking about? How can going into the evening of the
first day of the first month being still on the 14th day of the first
month? I’m assuming you mean He was buried on the 14th day of the month
before the 15th started in the evening according to the false
understanding of evening to evening. I do not believe He was buried
before sunset and the Scriptures prove that He was buried after evening:
Mar 15:42 And when EVENING HAD COME, because it was the Preparation Day, that is, the day before the Sabbath,
Mar
15:43 Yosĕph of Ramathayim, a prominent council member, who was himself
waiting for the reign of Elohim, came, boldly went in to Pilate and
asked for the body of יהושע.
According
to the Torah the lamb is to be eaten THAT NIGHT. Apparently you don’t
believe that Yahusha fulfills this either. Because if He did fulfill
this He would be buried that night and the grave opened its mouth and
swallowed Him represented by the stone that had been rolled back over
the mouth of the tomb.
Num 16:30 “But if יהוה creates
what is unheard of, and the earth opens its mouth and swallows them up
with all that belongs to them, and they go down alive into the grave,
then you shall know that these men have scorned יהוה.”
Psa 141:7 Our bones are scattered at the mouth of the grave, As when one ploughs and breaks up the earth.
Isa
5:14 Therefore the grave has made itself wide and opened its mouth
beyond measure. Their splendor and their crowd and their uproar, and he
who is exulting within her, shall go down into it.
I guess you just don’t consider how much Yahusha fulfills the physical Passover lamb and how it was to be eaten.
You said,
Quote:
“So Yahuwshuwa’s physical body was “entombed” whilst it was still light (before dusk and sunset),
REPLY: This is not truth, see above….
You said,
Quote:
“however this would not start the 3 day and 3 night actual count.”
Messiyah
Yahuwshuwa (His Soul-man, not the actual physical body) descended into
the heart of the earth about the 9th hour of that Pesach/Passover
daylight time (14th day of the 1st month), when he gave up the spirit
and died on the stake. This is exactly where the 3 days and 3 nights
count does start.
Yahuwshuwa descended then into the “heart of the earth” to preach to the souls of them in prison inside the earthen chamber(s).”
REPLY:
So if He died at the 9th hour then three days and three nights later
He would have risen at the 9th hour on your so-called Sabbath? And you
would say 9th hour equals six p.m.? Which would be approximately three
hours before night? But yet the Scriptures say:
Mar 16:9
And having risen early on the first day of the week, He appeared first
to Miryam from Magdala, from whom He had cast out seven demons.
So how does the 9th hour all of a sudden become ‘early on the first Sabbath’? Wouldn’t the 9th hour be later in the day?
9th hour day 14th
Night of 15th
9th hour Day of 15th
Night of 16th
9th hour Day of 16th
Night of 17th
Raise on day of 17th at 9th hour- there’s your complete 72 hours.
Mar
16:9 And having risen early on the first day of the week, He appeared
first to Miryam from Magdala, from whom He had cast out seven demons.
So
that’s what the schematics look like on your theory. So how does the
9th hour = risen early on the ‘first sabbat’? It specifically says
“having risen early”; that tells us when He rose. Early is the word:
G4404
πρωΐ́
prōi
pro-ee'
Adverb from G4253; at dawn; by implication the day break watch: - early (in the morning), (in the) morning.
There
is absolutely no way your theory coincides with what the Scripture
actually says. Proi, at dawn. Day break watch, in the morning. You
have Him rising in the afternoon toward evening. Besides that, where’s
the 16th?
You continue: “
Quote:
1st Keifa (falsely called Peter) chapter 3:18-20
“3:18
For Messiah also hath once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust,
that he might bring us to YaHuWaH, being put to death in the flesh, but
quickened by the Spirit:
3:19 By which also he went and preached unto the spirits in prison;
3:20
Which sometime were disobedient, when once the longsuffering of YaHuWaH
waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing, wherein few,
that is, eight souls were saved by water.”
And also Ephesians 4:9-10
“4:9
(Now that he ascended, what is it but that he also descended first into
the lower parts of the earth? 4:10 He that descended is the same also
that ascended up far above all heavens, that he might fill all things.)”
As
we can all see from 1st Keifa and Ephesians, “the heart of the earth”
means a lower portion where Yahuwshuwa preached to other souls, a
chamber within the central part of the earth somewhat like from the
parable concerning “Abraham’s bosom”. “The heart of the earth” does not
just only mean “death and/or grave”.”
REPLY:
Are you sure Yahusha didn’t go preach to the souls that were in prison
back in Noah’s day? I’m not sure about this verse completely but if
Yahusha suffered a physical death and immediately He was sent down to
the lower parts of the earth then He really didn’t sleep the sleep of
death, did He? Yet He suffered death but never really spent any time in
the death state, but besides that, back to the point –
The
Scriptures that you have quoted in no way likens the “heart of the
earth” to “death and grave”. Yes, they are in reference to death and
grave but you are the one that is inserting the “heart of the earth”.
When I said I would like references from the Scripture that show how
‘heart of the earth’ is likened to death and grave I meant something
like this:
Jer 51:50 You who have escaped the sword, go
away! Do not stand still! Remember יהוה from afar, and let Yerushalayim
come to your heart.
H3824
לבב
lêbâb
lay-bawb'
From
H3823; the heart (as the most interior organ); used also like H3820: -
+ bethink themselves, breast, comfortably, courage, ([faint], [tender-]
heart([-ed]), midst, mind, X unawares, understanding.
Or
like I have shown above concerning the mouth of the grave. You know
something like that. Some kind of Scriptural evidence that gives a
direct link that shows us that ‘heart” is likened to “grave”.
Nice try but it doesn’t fly in my understanding.
You said,
Quote:
“NOW
we can count a partial time of daylight (beginning at the time
Yahuwshuwa died), one night, another day, a second night, a second full
day, a third full night, and the remaining portion of a daylight time
that needed to be filled from the time he descended into the earth from
the stake. Yahuwshuwa resurrected out of the earth and back into His
physical body sometime near the 9th hour on that weekly 7th day Shabbath
(17th day of the 1st month).”
REPLY: See above. This is false. And where’s the 16th?
You said,
Quote:
“ This is the correct count from about the 9th hour on the 14th day of
the 1st month, the 15th, the 16th, and the resurrection about the 9 hour
on the 17th day of the 1st month and that weeks 7th day weekly
Shabbath; the same day. (Days are clearly constituted of an evening time
continuation of "night", and a morning time continuation of "day".)”
REPLY:
No, the day begins in the morning which can be absolutely Scripturally
proven in the Torah and the Brit – see above. It’s a great study; you
may want to try it.
You said,
Quote:
“That
does and accurately from scripture fulfills the “Yanah theory” and
Yahuwshuwa’s own prophectic sign of “3 days and 3 nights”.”
REPLY: This is not accurate at all. The 16th day of the month in your theory is missing per:
KJV
w/Strongs: Mat 28:1 In the end(G3796) of the sabbath,G4521 as it
began to dawnG2020 towardG1519 the firstG3391 day of the week,G4521
cameG2064 MaryG3137 MagdaleneG3094 andG2532 theG3588 otherG243 MaryG3137
to seeG2334 theG3588 sepulchre.G5028
Now you’re claiming that they are all referring to the weekly 7th day Sabbath. Just look at 28:1 –
“In
the end of the 7th day Sabbath as it began to dawn toward the first 7th
day Sabbath came Mary Magdalene” ? Look at that, back to back 7th day
Sabbaths? How can we have back to back 7th day Sabbaths?
You said,
Quote:
“Futhermore, the day Yahuwshuwa was seen on the road to Amma’us (Luke 24:13)
Luke 24:13 “And, behold, two of them went that same day to a village
called Emmaus, which was from Jerusalem about threescore furlongs.”
WAS THE SAME DAY Yahuwshuwa resurrected!
(SAME DAY; weekly 7th day Shabbath, 17th day of the 1st month)
Again reference Luke 24:21…
which clearly supports all the testimony thus far stating that it has been 3 days.
As we can clearly see, the "Yanah theory" is in fact a scripturally
proven Ruwah prophesied (by the messiyah Yahuwshuwa) Truth. “
REPLY: Yes, He prophesied correctly:
Mar
7:6 And He answering, said to them, “Well did Yeshayahu prophesy
concerning you hypocrites, as it has been written, ‘This people respect
Me with their lips, but their heart is far from Me.
Mar 7:7 And in vain do they worship Me, teaching as teachings the commands of men.
You said,
Quote:
“The
Scripture here above is unbroken, and does not contradict itself, only
your(Greg's) interpretation guided by the spirit of error…”
REPLY: Again, you have not even answered the question according to Luke:
Luk
24:19 And He said to them, “What?” And they said to Him, “Concerning
יהושע of Natsareth, who was a Prophet mighty in deed and word before
Elohim and all the people,
Luk 24:20 and how the chief priests and our rulers delivered Him to be condemned to death, and impaled Him.
Luk
24:21 “We, however, were expecting that it was He who was going to
redeem Yisra’ĕl. But besides all this, today is the third day since
these matters took place.
According
to these Scriptures it was the third day since these matters took place.
What matters was he talking about? How the chief priests and rulers
delivered Him to be condemned to death and impaled Him. He was
delivered to be condemned to death and impaled on the 14th day of the
first month. That is the first day. It specifically says “since those
matters took place” The 15th day of the month was the second day. The
16th day of the month was the third day since those things took place;
which is also the first day of the week, the morrow after the weekly
Sabbath, the day of the omer.
14, 15, 16 There are no other days mentioned in the Scripture.
You said,
Quote:
“Here below Greg are your errors and unjust assessments:”
REPLY:
My errors and unjust assessments? I could take the time to recap this
but all you have to do is go back and read it and it conclusively
proves that your understanding is in error.
You said,
Quote:
“Yahusha”
is an idol the wicked do testify of with the rest of the whole wicked
world consumed by lies of Babylon The Great Whore.
The messiyah’s name is Yahuwshuwa (yod-hey-waw-shin-waw-ayin) and we the elect do testify of Him.
Repent. “
REPLY:
I thank you again for taking your time to attempt to prove your
theory. But as we have seen by what you have shown yourself confirms
that it is an absolute impossibility for your theory to be correct
according to your rebuttal. Unless you would insist there was no 16th
day of the month that year, that early in the morning was really the 9th
hour, and so on.. but concerning your last statement. Just remember
that what judgment you mete out will be met back upon your own head.
Mat
10:25 “It is enough for the taught one to become like his teacher, and a
servant like his master. If they have called the master of the house
Beʽelzebul, how much more those of his household!
1Pe 3:15 But
set apart יהוה Elohim in your hearts, and always be ready to give an
answer to everyone asking you a reason concerning the expectation that
is in you, with meekness and fear,
1Pe 3:16 having a good conscience,
so that when they speak against you as doers of evil, those who falsely
accuse your good behaviour in Messiah, shall be ashamed.
1Pe 3:17 For it is better, if it is the desire of Elohim, to suffer for doing good than for doing evil.
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